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but if I missed something please tell me. The bad publicity led some supporters, Melvin and Betty Sembler of The Seed to create a copycat organization under a different name Straight Inc.but employed Du Point as a consultant. Dr. Jerome Jaffe, the first White House Drug Czar, had written the foreward to Dr. Meyers book which had called for caution in the use of synanon-style screaming matches against kids. Since I alone have the records (UCLA has only what Synanon chose to give it) I felt obligated. Relationships at the school between students and staff seemed to have little formal structure or sense of normal boundary and a students life was always under threat of intense and unpredictable disciplining and punishment. He would want to know the reasons that motivated me, if he was in search for the truth. It also provides no real therapy and is the same program for everyone. Its goal was to take it to the context of greater society.I would appreciate you know your feelings. they were supposed to be about love, while men were about war. He wrote the failure of Yablonsky to see the horror of what he had written raised questions suggesting a lack of humanity in Yablonsky. A popular TV series was based on John Maher, a colorful former Synanite, who formed his own second generation Synanon in San Francisco called The Delancey Street Gang. Whatever value Synanon might have had, I believed then, it had been long-lost. In Maias book it is described one woman was not even allowed to leave a teen rehab after she turned 18, the organization threatening her mother to toss out her younger child if the mother took the older one back. Died of dehydration. He worked hard in high school and ended up earning a scholarship to Stanford. Aftermaththe Synanon legacy Comments here are for input, questions, and providing of facts. For us, it was Experience of Contact, thousands of interviews, internal documents, depositions of leaders and a lifelong examination. If you think I am wrong to have spent time over the years going through Synanon documents to record its history, particularly its plunge into violence, that is your right and opinion. Copyright Paul Morantz. All throughout history when the same mix occurs so do the same results. It is with Dederich who created the system, a person who in his own words never cared for one single second about any person who left. This was written before he joined. And furthermore, the National Institutes of Health (NIDAs parent) had funded the first Synanon copy-cat program in NYC called Daytop Lodge. when I was growing up I thought world would be a better place if women were in control. He was so wrong and he refused to write many who studied Synanon came to an opposite conclusion. As to the above, I remain impressed with your apparent life long research into many areas, and you write so much, it is hard to know where to begin. All he knew was that if someone stayed they didnt do drugs. 479 members Join group About this group Anybody who's been touched by The SYNANON Cult as well as anybody who's suffered ANY TTI programs or institutional abuse youre welcome, as well See more Private I also believed that Synanons many clones, adding doctors, and other proper variations, had established successful drug rehabilitation. I offered the information to Janzen and he didnt want it. Elan maybe closed though we as survivors are not finished ,we are still seeking justice, and we demand justice for those that did not survive. I just imagined Charles Dederich rolling over in his grave at that news. And we sort of took that on, and it's sad because it's not a real portrait of a man, it's a child's imagination of a man. It just seems monstrous.". In addition, group practice becomes an anti-therapeutic factor with the T.C. By 1971 Dederich would submit that while 10 to 12,000 people had gone through Synanon only about 10% stayed free of drugs for as much as 2 years, which was similar to the statistics everyone else concluded, which were the same at Lexington Hospital when Synanon was founded. However, there is little evidence that harsh behavior-modification techniques can solve these problems. Shomeister. I listened to countless game tapes. He interviewed Richard Ofshe but then without explanation he wrote Ofshes discourses of brainwashing interesting, but not applicable. But I have certainly seen where the situation is clearly reversed. I have countless books of interviews and depositions. There just a, lots of them down in the Bank of America building in San Francisco, Pacific Union club, various law offices throughout the country, the streets, the ghettos, the penitentiaries. Synanon just gave it a giant shove through its PR machine which unfortunately attracted sociopaths wanting an easy road to riches and unfortunately led many governmental agencies and politicians to back their concepts. It was reported between 6000 and 10,000 people lived in Synanon from 1958 to 1968 but apparently only 65 were ever known to have completed the program and elected to graduate to life outside the community. The reviewer for his section on synanons for prisoners is none other than Dr. Robert DuPont, the second White House Drug Czar and founding director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) and who administered a whopping $1.8 million contract to an experimental, start-up synanon for kids-only called The Seed in Fort Lauderdale. "I became very interested in the idea of buried history, all the ways that we as children were told things that were patently untrue, and that we believed them," says Jollett, whose book will publish on May 26, just after the same-titled album. Maia wrote: No fewer than 50 programs can trace their treatment philosophy, directly or indirectly, to an anti-drug cult called Synanon. Sometimes I think women are more revenge orientated, but it probably still comes down to the individual. CED had similar protection but blew it when he started ordering attacks and got caught on his tapes. That is, she was forced to run in the summer sun until she collapsed, and then she was left laying in the hot sun until she died. Both AA and Synanon provided this insight, but unfortunately each bounded its members with an ideology and demand to never quit the organizations. Now theres a little room for you now. And the grant had been administered by the founding director of NIDA who also happened to be the second White House Drug Czar-Robert DuPont. The Sunshine Place investigates Synanon through survivors, former members, and more Society & Culture August 10, 2022 Listen to The Sunshine Place And with that all being announced on the wire, murder attempts begin. as to George Bush, again in my book I said there was no difference between him psychologically and Osama. The experiences with the original population of adult addicts still pervade the thinking and functioning of most T.C.s. As for women, I cant purport to be an expert, but having lived through the 60s Revolution and womens rights I do have my observations. Today, there are statistics saying women have surpassed men as earners, all of this is good. And, as stated, many of those who left were purposely ejected or forced out by Dederich squeezes. Indeed, that same year Dederich, in his The Wrath of God speech accused addicts of stabbing him in the back by failing to negotiate an apartment complex purchase, and threatened to get rid of all of them and replace them with squares. He noted that the child seemed lost in the rigid hierarchy and confrontation tactics of the program. He wrote: As a clinician I am concerned about the effects of intense, violent verbal interaction upon young teenagers engaged in a sensitive process of identity formation. A haunting tale of estrangement, Synanon Kid, is a coming-of-age story of hope, survival, and determination. TTI Survivor - Leviah Rose. Perhaps worse, was Dederichs friendship with Caesar Chavez wherein CED convinced Caesar to live like a rich man on La Paz and import the game which led to mutiny and the downfall of the UFW. Do you realize that over 80 people were attacked? In contrast, Jollett's goals as a parent are simple. Instead it is led to countless deaths, destruction of lives and still continues today. Some had warned of the potential dangers of using synanons (game) on adults. Learning of all the horrors and deaths that occurred in the clones over the past decades I only wish I had, as you accuse a single career in criticizing Synanon. They also had to fight for attention from the few loving adults who monitored them, Jollett explains. I am very aware of the early philosophies of Synanon. I further told him that UCLA records were selective and I alone had Synanons internal documents which tells another story. Paul please post this comment and not the other two thank you sir. A haunting tale of estrangement, Synanon Kid, is a coming-of-age story of hope, survival, and determination. Elan made millions and millions of dollars, off of criminal child abuse. And when former clients sued Straight for holding them against their will, Straight pressured parents into letting Straight fight for them for the right to force their kids into treatment with the force of a court order. Im rich. This was Synanon had its worse, andit is not permitted here. In his final letter to his mother, he wrote, They found my weakness and I want to go home.. And in the end, what I presented were facts, i.e., the actual statistics, what happened in the clones and the general consensus of experts that the Synanon system of brainwashing, punishments and humiliations is counterproductive and psychologically dangerous. Eventually in a 1978 tape recording called The Freebees are over Dederich set forth the plan to establish a private corporation, Home Place, Inc. in Arizona which would charge Synanon for rotating people to the new compound to be educated by Dederich and that Synanon would pay the corporation for this, which then would pay salaries to Dederich and his cronies, of which they would pay taxes. But, in the late '70s, the California-based organization became synonymous with violence. A business illiterate, I dont know an invoice from a purchase order or the difference between shipped and delivered. Jollett and his older brother Tony were taken from their parents his father a recovered addict and former convict, his mother an anti-government activist from Berkeley when they were just 6 months old. Many are dead, many are in prison ,and worse many roam the earth as emotional cripples from just having come in contact with Joe Ricci,and his henchmen that helped him run the Elan Corporation. . But these ideals were short lived. Synanon can make its recommendation not to connect, even expel and announce it will not accept the person back; but there is no right to stop contact by never informing the person of attempts being made and giving the person the choice. Jollett says his feelings were not validated by his mother, who instead relied on him for comfort. To me there is good reason why Elan was not on the the map. After 30 years of pondering, I came full circle and realized that sociologist Richard Ofshe had analyzed it right from the start. It was also capable of controling the floor show when ever there was an investigation, during these times Elan became a large weird hotel lobby, albeit briefly, while investigators simply saw our blank faces. Its just simply if your writing a book on the history of an organization and you are aware that someone filed multiple actions against it, and they tried to murder him for it, if you are a journalist you are going to interview that person. In 1980, the cult leader received widespread attention when he pleaded no contest to charges of assault and conspiracy to commit murder after he and two other Synanon members attempted to kill Paul Morantz, a lawyer who had successfully sued Synanon, by putting a four-and-a-half foot rattlesnake in his mailbox. For author Mikel Jollett, the frontman for the indie band The Airborne Toxic Event, his book is a "primal scream.". (16) In 1985 psychotherapists Thomas Bratter and Gary Forrest echoed the conclusion of Rachman and Heller and added a caution of their own when they wrote that such a treatment [for self-destructive drug abusers] may not be necessary or appropriate for other treatment populations, i.e. As I said, for years I basically hung out with former members. A former member of Elan wrote: Elan is best described as a, sadistic, brutal, violent, soul-eating hellhole. At Elan, the Game was transformed into constant screaming and degradation and the physically rough treatment became all day violence. I was inducted in late 1976 at the age of 14. Posted by 6 years ago. TimI didnt say I was the only one to fight Synanon. All the civil rights marches, the anti-Vietnam protests, were uniting people of all races. I talked with you briefly about Elan and of its closing. Researched by Maia Szalavitz for a book in 2006 and for Mother Jones in 2007 she described the clone horrors and traced them back to Synanon. "He was just this big, masculine, Italian, strong guy that loved his boys. That did not exist in Synanon, that is what cemented its doom. also, to write a good book, you have to think that is what you are doing or it will not be a good book. Yet by 1968, to justify ending graduation, if Dederich was correct, there was little success in curing addicts. I responded to him that the media never knew the extent of the actual violence and as far as violence inside Synanon, how many incidents would you like to know about? Later I sent him a copy of the History of Synanon violence with over 80 incidents and he never responded nor did I hear from him again, nor did he ever apologize to the public for writing a book in which he intentionally avoided the actual evidence. When he begged to see a doctor, the staff sneered at him and called him a faker and asked him if he were homosexual.. "I have nightmares about my son falling down steps, I have nightmares about dropping my daughter. Anyway, you should learn about ones actual career before you make assumptions about it. But, Ms. Szalavitz writes, the shuttered programs simply changed their names and reopened, often with the same staff, in the same stateeven in the same building. The founder, Charles Dederich, ordered his cult followers to divorce and swap partners, with more than 200 couples complying. And in end, its Synanons holocaust that is its legacy, particularly since there were so many who predicted it as early as the 60s from nothing more than reading the books written about Synanon. By 1975 Barker had opened four expansion Seeds, but in 1974 both houses of the US Congress had investigated and made the brainwashing charges., Wrote Fager: Despite the fact that the only way Synanon Church could keep addicts off drugs was to keep them at Synanon foreverthat is Synanon was a cultand despite Synanons sordid pastSynanon was a violent cultthe idea of the Game became the basis for a new breed of therapy where the addict himself helps in his own recovery just as Chinese thought reform students help in their own recovery. In my opinion Elan operated as a continueing criminal enterprise for close to forty years. For those, as stated above, there is no doubt Synanon served as Ofshe stated, a realistic shelter while they got their act together. For many academics, it is reviewing writing of others. Kids were assaulted and restrained without cause and all the rest. Dr. Casriel in 1963 reported that of 62 people located of 160 entries, 19 were graduates, while 43 remained inside Synanon. 9. I am a Synanon survivor. We either do that or we stop. ("There was no soft place to land, there was no one really caring about us," he explains. Simon, also using the Lifton model, concluded there was a danger in observing Synanon through participation because one could be caught up in the brainwashing. For more than a decade, a Tucson nonprofit drug-treatment center God bless you. Straight used Synanons vaginal and anal searches to search for contraband for years even though they never found any. The Hammer Podcast. Charles was arrested while drunk in 1978 and was barred from any further leadership within the It quotes statements I did not make but Dederich did. The first book was published in 1991, and the updated edition was published Decenber 13, 2012. And they didn't do that.". Even if the system had worked, the price was too high free will. Today, troubled-teen programs use Synanon-like tactics, advertising themselves to parents as solutions for everything from poor study habits to substance misuse. is a different Some children were taken to foreign countries, or islands, although foreign countries have done more to stop them than our government. Almost all modern day therapeutic communitiesand there are hundreds of themare based on the game. At the heart of the Cedu program was a philosophy that had grown out of various self-help movements of the 1960s and 70s, such as Lifespring, Werner Erhards EST, and most directly, from Charles E. Dederichs Synanon cult, church, and street-level heroin-cure program. Synanon was a drug and alcohol rehabilitation center and movement-turned-cult in California that existed from 1958 to 1991. I don't know. While the abuse in Synanon was bad enough, it pails in comparison to a stream of sociopaths who hijacked the system to become Millionaires through the abuse of children; in some cases even as morally deprived as organizations that kidnap children and sell them for profit. Some people, whether from genes or experiences, or combinations thereof, just are not capable of living a good life on their own. gave a grant to a Florida organization called The Seed, which applied Synanons methods to teenagers, even to those only suspected of trying drugs . For comparisons please get my book Escape: My Life Long War Against Cults. .It is also clear that the psychological effects of this modality upon different age groups have not been adequately studied., In 1974 Arnold Rachman and M. Heller warned about using the Game with kids when they wrote: There is a serious shortcoming within the theory and the practice of the T.C. Oaks and Spokes. "I think the insight for me was I always loved her, she just wasn't very good at loving me. No one knows the actual final fate of the 19. Its a calculated risk. This story one, it was a hard fought battle. WebI run the Synanon Survivors Facebook group and wed love to have to as a member!! As to CED I have no clear answer, but certainly his childhood traumas and abandonments were likely to produce pathology. I immediately sensed he was writing a book in which he was avoiding obtaining information that might challenge his view. In 1974, Congress opened an investigation into such behavior-modification programs, finding that The Seed had used methods similar to the highly refined brainwashing techniques employed by the North Koreans. The game and all other methods of forced confessions, real or false to conform, are the essence of Liftons brainwashing. There were countless communes and entities much larger that took in people of all races. Today there is argument, but generally it only comes from true believers like Janzen or long time residents who once condemned Synanon, , but now in their old age, as is generally the final stage for victims of brainwashing, per Dr. Lifton, rewrite their memories so each night they are at peace with what they took part in, including, if not outright participating, knowing of the Imperial Marines and all the beatings. I did not delete Susans comment, they disappeared and then reappeared; have happy holidays. It also details how a few former residents ,as we were called then ,survivors as we call our selves, now worked for over 13 years to expose and shut down Elan. He participated in several missions, and arguably would have lived a better life but for his exposure to Synanon. The musician was careful in his portrayal of his mother, whom he feared would come across as a one-dimensional villain. Dr. Roger Meyer and psychotherapists Thomas Bratter and Gary Forrest warned about using synanons on kids. If CED had that kind of protection, he would have died a king.. It is also a story of the unconditional love between Even AA, which similarly indoctrinated a specific dogma the 12 steps is seen as not so successful as promoted and/or a proper therapy to cure alcoholism as it demands a dogmatic conversion and life time attendance that has been proven not necessary. I have the book and am reading it. Thats why I wrote the history of Synanon because there is so much to learn. This issue obviously needs further elaboration and research, but there are suggestions that there are age limits below which this form of treatment is contraindicated. A few, but very few have gone out and made it. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. Im so grateful, thankful & PROUD of everyone who made this happen!!! And thats it for the idea that Synanon played a role in curing drug addiction. Its like, its like the story Ive always told you, you know about the warden standing up on the, looking out the window of his office and down in the big yard and saying, Come here, George, watch em theyll all fuck each other pretty soon you know, we, we, we most of the people to come into our house and say I would like to live here and turn out to be very, very real crazy people. Studies found that Synanons encounter groups could produce lasting psychological harm and that only 10 to 15 percent of the addicts who participated in them recovered. there were a lot of people in the early days who left because of the way Dederich was taking it, and its too bad the idea grew out of person with such a tortured past. It exposes the cruel abnormal policies, practices and propaganda the Synanon children were forced to endure in a so-called modern America. As I said, I would say the same of Janzen. Further, it is foolish to treat all persons in the same manner. But that idea was bantered by law enforcement as because of the wire, and the wire logs, knowledge could be proven against all who stayed in support. borderline schizophrenic patients, schizoid personalities, and acutely anxious, neurotic adolescents. How all of this occurred is set forth in the first book So Fair a House by Dr. Casriel. (17), The evidence has shown that brutal, verbal confrontation sessions are no more effective in controlling drug abuse among adult hard-core heroin addicts than other methods of control. In one sense it becomes like the question of which came first the chicken or the egg. In 1966 New York City Mayor John Lindsay hired Puerto Rican psychiatrist Efren Esteban Ramirez to run the citys Addiction Services Agency. His motive, which Janzen missed, was the eventual plan to steal all the money. Phoenix House is one of the biggest TCs today. ", It wasn't until the boys moved in with their father a tall, Italian man who awed them with stories about once hiding a shotgun under his trench coat that the once-distant dad became more than just a mythological figure. if you have actual information please, but your tirades will be deleted. Link To The Synanon Survivors Group And Future Photo Library The Cedu Schools developed into an industry of sister schools, clones and copy-cats, that are now a multi-million dollar, international and unregulated business., *.*.. Rocker Mikel Jollett's Memoir on Cult Childhood Is 'Primal Scream' You would also have learned that I have been in the room with many Synanon people countless times. Paul Morantz But their position was based on incomplete data, in Janzen s case that was intentional. This is due, in part, to many Synanites having left to form their own lucrative drug rehabilitation companiesa degree in medicine is not a requirement. Those who chose to reject his ideas were removed. But generally, as to your comment, my book was not in disagreement. Here we are not talking about riding horses, discussing the nature of man, or Emerson, but a reign of terror that was destined and predicted by many in the early 60s due to the Synanon methods of attack therapy, forced confessions, rewards and punishments and brainwashing about enemies. *, As with The Seed, at Straight abuse was omnipresentincluding beatings and kidnapping of adult participants. Have a merry. Gina Score, 14, at the state-run juvenile prison camp at Plankinton, South Dakota, 1999 was run to death. The entirety of my writings say the same thing. .relinquish all independence and subjugate themselves to these staff and senior residents, accepting humiliation and total control of their lives even to the extent of accepting complete direction of their sex lives. He had beaten me time wise. "I can't tell you how many times a day I pick up my kid. The problem is, however, is how to ensure they are taken advantage of. "Sometimes I think about this book as this primal scream, this assertion: 'This happened. Prove that all the Synanon documents directing kidnappings, beatings and murder did not exist. The real origins of the Cedu schools remained hidden from the students, their parents and much of the staff until years after their graduation or departure. What lies did we believe wholeheartedly?". And you quite accurately describe the reason, it was protected. As I wrote, starting in 1998, off and on for 3 years; then quitting, starting again in 2009, stopping in 2011 to write the book Escape: My Life Long War Against Cults, and picking up in 2012, that question continued as did the question did Synanon leave any positive legacy along with its revelation that its processes dictated its ultimate outcome and was predictable from the start? Dederich said those who left fell through the open manhole and would post descriptions of their calamities for all to see as a warning if they ever left. In 1974 Rachman and Heller had noted that many youths had dropped out of TCs because the methods were geared to curing adult addicts. As stated, Dederich, himself, admitted at deposition that he created the boogeyman to bond people and keep them from running away. So in that sense, Synanon contributed to the idea that one could get off addiction. It was far from being just Synanon. Arbitrarily, I would say that young persons under 16 years of age should be excluded from these programs and that careful evaluation be given admitting persons between 16 and 18 years of age . People had to know its dangers before making choices to support or join. But it is mans nature to flock together and unfortunately war with each other. . 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